What are the differences between the three models CL5, CL3 and CL1?
Input channel count and fader count vary depending on each model, but the other basic specifications including output channel count are consistent throughout the line-up, so you get the same capabilities and performance whichever model you choose for your application. This also means consistent performance and operation in systems that implement multiple consoles. (Input channel mixing capability is; CL5:72+8st, CL3:64+8st, CL1:48+8st)
How many Rio units can a CL console control?
One console can control HAs on up to 8 Rio units. 8 Rio units can provide up to 8x32 =256 inputs. One console hooks up 64 inputs via the Dante port (plus, up to 48 inputs via the slots) from all the available channels in a Dante network.
Can different types of I/O racks be mixed in a system?
Yes of course. You can combine not only Rio3224-D and Rio1608-D which provide a number of inputs and outputs, but also Ri8-D for input-only portable racks and Ro8-D for output-only amp racks..
How many consoles can share HA with Gain Compensation?
Up to 4 consoles can share the HA control of I/O racks with Gain Compensation. Audio signal can be shared among more than 4 Dante devices.
What are the CL series Gain Compensation algorithm and the benefit?
Compensation gain is applied at the digital stage of I/O rack and can work to compensate the analog gain changes by moving in the opposite direction, which allows multiple CL consoles to take the compensated (stable) input signals. The compensated signal is also delivered to other Dante devices such as computer and other consoles equipped with Dante, because the gain is compensated at the I/O rack stage, not in the console.
Is Cascade function available in order to increase Input channel mixing capacity?
Yes. Using Mini-YGDAI slots, you can configure the bus cascade connection. Cascade link communication (e.g. Scene Recall) is through MIDI.
When cascading two CL/QL Series consoles, how can I connect them and make the word clock settings?
They can be cascaded via MY cards such as MY16-AE and Dante-MY16-AUD, or Dante ports on the QL console. For details on the connections and clock settings, please refer to the slide show below.
"CL Series & QL Series: A Quick Guide for CASCADE Setup"
What is Premium Rack? What is VCM technology?
Premium Rack is a rack to mount 8 units of special EQ and comp such as Rupert Neve Designs Portico EQ/comp. VCM (Virtual Circuitry Modeling) technology is a Yamaha’s innovative modeling technology which involves a technique to model the analogue circuitry on a component level and faithfully reproduces even the saturated sound and non-linear characteristics of analog devices. The accurately-modeled EQ and dynamics of Premium Rack and Effect Rack employ the VCM technology.
Why do the headamp gain values differ from those of the other consoles such as M7CL and PM5D?
CL series indicates the actual amplification factor (level ratio of input to output) instead of the former input sensitivity (input signal level required to obtain the nominal output). This is to match with the indication for the newly-introduced digital gain.
Setup / Operation
Do I have to use a computer to setup routing between console and I/O racks?
No. Setup can be done without a computer unless any Dante devices other than CL and Rio are connected. CL V1.5 and later is also capable of detecting and patching XMV-D series and NEXO NXAMP (with NXDT104 card attached) power amps etc. If you want to configure an advanced system with other Dante devices, Dante Controller on a computer will be necessary.
Do I have to use network switches in order to connect console and I/O racks?
No and yes. CL and Rio are equipped with a built-in switch which allows you to connect these devices in a daisy-chain without external network switches. This mode is called “Daisy Chain mode”. There is another mode called “Redundant mode”, which is a star connection with switches. This mode provides network redundancy and expandability of the system configuration.
Can systems be expanded not only with consoles and I/O racks, but also with signal processors or power amps?
Yes. Dante-MY16-AUD card can be inserted into Yamaha signal processors DME64N/24N and power amp TXn series, which can join to the same Dante network with setup by CL or Dante Controller.
How is redundancy in terms of power supply, network and DSP processing?
PW800W can be used as a redundant power supply. Dante network can be configured with redundancy of Primary and Secondary connections in Redundant mode. DSP engine does not have any redundant function: two consoles can be used on the same network for that purpose.
What do I have to take care of when connecting multiple CL consoles in a system?
You need to assign a different Console ID (1-4) to each console for identification. If you will share a single set of I/O racks with multiple consoles, be sure that With Recall is disabled on all but one console. This will be the console that recalls the required headamp settings with each Scene memory.
How can I load a console file from a guest engineer on my CL console without affecting the Dante setup and I/O rack patches?
Turn off "With Dante Setup and I/O Device" before loading console files (.CLF). This setting is found at the bottom of the SAVE/LOAD page.
How can I load only some specific scenes from a console file?
Unfortunately, it cannot be done on the CL console. If you use CL Editor on you PC, however, any of the scenes in a file can be copied and loaded into the CL console.
Remote control from PC and iPad
Is a console Editor application available for CL series?
CL Editor runs as a standalone application on Win and Mac. It doesn’t need Studio Manager host nor network driver.
Is StageMix available for CL series?
Yes. CL StageMix is ready for your iPad.
How many StageMix can be used simultaneously?
Only a single iPad can communicate with CL simultaneously.
Can StageMix be used with CL Editor simultaneously?
Yes. A single CL StageMix on iPad and a single CL Editor on computer can communicate with CL simultaneously.
Can I use CL Editor offline to set up the routing between the CL and I/O racks beforehand?
Unfortunately not: CL Editor can only make patching within the console. The CL console is always required to route between the CL and I/O racks. On the CL console, you can route I/O racks offline even when the devices are not connected.
Shure Wireless Receiver Support
Which models of Shure wireless receivers are supported for the control and monitor from the CL/QL series console?
Shure ULXD4D and ULXD4Q wireless receivers are supported. Be sure to update the Shure firmware (receivers and microphones) to V1.6.6 or later as well as the CL/QL firmware to V4.0 or later for the remote capability.
Which parameters of Shure wireless receiver can be controlled or monitored from the CL/QL series?
Control parameters: receiver gain, channel name, mute, identify
Monitoring parameters: audio level, battery status, RF frequency & level, diversity
How many units of Shure wireless receivers can be remote from the CL/QL series?
Up to 24 units of Shure receivers can be controlled and monitored from one console. The receivers need unique ID numbers but may be duplicated with Yamaha devices.
Make sure that up to 24 units of Shure receivers in the discovery order can be controllable if 25 or more are connected in network. In other words, 25th or later devices will not be able to be remote.
Can the Shure remote run on the Dante redundant network?
Only the Dante Primary port works for the remote. Therefore, the Secondary port does not handle the remote signals even if the Dante redundant network is configured for audio redundancy. Please also be sure to select the SWITCHED or REDUNDANT mode on the Shure receivers (SPLIT mode is not supported).
I cannot control Shure wireless receivers from CL/QL series although they are properly wired. What should be checked?
Firstly, please refer to this video for the setup.
Make sure to update the CL/QL series firmware to V4.02 or later, and Shure receivers and microphones to V1.6.6 or later.
If the remote control still doesn't work, please check the Shure receiver settings below.
- DEVICE UTILITIES > NETWORK > CONFIGURATION
Select "Yamaha" for ID MODE, and assign a unique ID.
- DEVICE UTILITIES > NETWORK > DANTE
"SPLIT" mode is NOT supported in the CONFIGURATION menu. Be sure to select "SWITCHED" or "REDUNDANT".
- DEVICE UTILITIES > NETWORK > SHURE CONTROL > NETWORK
The control function utilizes a different IP address apart from Dante audio, and supports link-local addresses (169.254.x.x) only. If any other IP addresses are assigned to the Shure receivers manually or by a DHCP server, the remote control will not work.
What sort of Live Recording solution is available with CL?
Simple 2-track recording using USB key inserted into CL, and full-scale 64-track recording using DAW software such as Steinberg Nuendo with Dante Virtual Soundcard (DVS) are available. “Nuendo Live” will be bundled with every CL console.
What is Nuendo Live?
Recording engine is the same as full featured Nuendo, but Nuendo Live is optimized with essential features for Live Recording purpose so that mixing engineers can handle live recording efficiently and reliably. (e.g. System setup can be completed on one menu screen.) On top of that, there are integrations with CL console thanks to a CL Extension plug-in, such as channel name copy to track, Scene Recall creates new markers and transport control.
What is Dante Virtual Soundcard (DVS)?
DVS is a simple software program that enables the computer network port to act as a Dante audio interface with 64 channels in/out.
Is a DVS license included with CL consoles?
Yes, one DVS license is included with each CL console, Rio3224-D, and Rio1608-D. It is not included with Ri8-D and Ro8-D.
I could not activate my DVS though I've entered the included serial number. How should I do that?
The included serial number with your product is not a license ID but a DVS token. You need to access Audinate's website and use the DVS token to redeem your license ID. http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/global/en/downloads/firmware_software/cl/dante_dvs.jsp
Can I buy DVS as a standalone product?
Yes, you can buy DVS from Audinate web site. (www.audinate.com)
Can I use multiple computers for multi-track recording at a time?
Audio routing is not limited to a single computer, so multiple computers can be used. However, if you will perform recording integrated with the CL console operations using Nuendo Live and CL Extension software, only a single computer can be controlled from a CL console. With four CL consoles connected, each of them can control a different computer.
Can I perform multi-track recording on a desktop PC with Dante Accelerator PCIe card attached instead of DVS?
Yes, you can do that. If you will also integrate the recording with the CL console operations via CL Extension, connect your PC's LAN port to the same network and specify the IP address from the CL console.
Is 2TR recording file path compatible with LS9?
Yes. You can use the same USB key as your favorite library for both CL series and LS9.
Is console data compatible between three models CL5, CL3 and CL1?
Yes. Each console file can be directly loaded into a different model.
Can I convert CL series console data to other mixing consoles?
Yes. Yamaha Console File Converter enables bidirectional conversion among PM5D, M7CL, LS9, and CL series.
Can I use external power supply PW800W which is using for PM5D and M7CL?
Yes. PW800W is compatible between PM5D, DSP5D, M7CL and CL series.
Do the Rio units work with existing consoles (e.g. PM5D, M7CL) using Dante-MY16-AUD?
Yes. Dante Controller can set up audio routing between them and the console can remotely control the headamps of Rio, if Dante-MY16-AUD cards are inserted into the console and Rio units are set to AD8HR mode. In this case, make sure the firmware of Dante-MY16-AUD is v3.3.9 or later, and Dante Controller is v3.2.9 or later. For details on the setup, refer to "Dante-MY16-AUD & Rio Series HA Remote Control Guide".
Can I increase the number of mixing channels if Dante-MY16-AUD cards are inserted into the slots?
It doesn't expand the mixing capability, but allows you to route more channels from the Dante network to your CL console and use them by switching the console patch using scene memories. Normally a CL console can control the headamps of up to eight units of Rio, but it can also control up to six extra units (in case of Ri8-D) from the External HA screen via Slot 1 with Dante-MY16-AUD inserted. Keep in mind, however, these additional Rio units must work in AD8HR mode and cannot provide CL-specific functionality such as Gain Compensation.
Can I use the Gain Compensation function when the CL series are used in conjunction with the existing consoles (e.g. PM5D, M7CL)?
Yes. Existing consoles fitted with Dante-MY16-AUD can be connected to the same Dante network if audio routing is set by Dante Controller. All consoles can receive compensated audio from Rio when CL console’s Gain Compensation is activated. Note that only CL consoles can adjust HA gain.
Is Gain Compensation available for a system which consists of only existing consoles and Rio (i.e. no CL console)?
No. Existing consoles can’t have Gain Compensation if there is no CL console in a system: in that case, Rio will work in “AD8HR emulation” mode.
Are our existing Stage-boxes compatible with CL?
Yes, of course. Stage-box solutions such as SB168-ES and AD8HR+NAI48-ES are compatible with CL consoles via slots, up to 48 channels. (Gain Compensation function is not available with those devices.)